Jameson is a blended potstill whiskey (malted + Unmalted grain blended with grain whiskey). Mostly only Catholics or the nonreligious drink here. Terrific reading. It wouldnt have anything to do with the fact that Guinness is in the Republic of Ireland and Bushmills is in Northern Ireland would it? I hear that William Grant & Sons has a contract with LDI to have Tullamore Dew produced in Cork until 2025, so they will have to either be creative to release anything from the new distillery or have some mighty fine aged whiskey come the latter half of the next decade. Historically a single pot still whiskey, the flagship Powers Gold Label brand was the first Irish whiskey ever to be bottled. None of that means shit. The answer is that it depends on the distillery. Powers is for shooting, some of the swill mentioned here is OK for mixing and when I want a little variety, I go for a double Connemara 12 never get tired of the peated smoothness and wonderful finish. An Italian friend, when introduced to the term Uiske Beatha thought the word was bad water and now refers to it as Aqua Sporca or dirty water. Big thank you to reader Jonathan for providing this informative link about this. He said, I guess they will have to be giving up the Guiness as well? As someone who drinks her whiskey with ginger ale and a slice of lime, I definitely vote Powers over any other. I tasted the Jamesons before I poured in any ginger ale & so glad I did, Irish whiskey is sooooo much better IMHO than Scotch or bourbon IMHO. Spent the rest of the week getting to know Irish whiskey & came home w/ small bottles of Irish Whiskeys I wasnt sure I could get in the US so I could continue my coyage of discovery at home. It is all quite harmonious between the distilleries. My grandmother preferred Bushmills (on ice, with a large splash of water). Gin with a lime is Protestant. He said he was going to spend 90% of it on women and Irish whiskey and the other 10% he was going to waste! I have a bottle of Midleton stashed away for a special occasion and I keep a bottle of Kilbeggan for my go-to whiskey. Catholic powers praised the killings, and the French Protestant cause saw a wave of exile and conversions. I was told by one Irishman the RedBreast would change my life and another one told me that The Irishman Founders Reserve would do the same. Powers is good and inexpensive but 2 Gingers is better then them all and reasonably priced!!! If you dont beleive in god the whole situation would appear ridiculous. And it really is an Irish American thing to take to finding out which is protestant and catholic lol. Currently sipping on a Writers Tears neat & have two types of Teeling, The Irishman single malt, The Irishman Founders Reserve, a 12 y/o Redbreast, a GreenSpot single pot, a Powers John Lane Release, a Middleton Barry Crockett Legacy, a 12 y/o Jameson Special Reserve, & a Green Spot still to try. And I was not drunk !!! bushmills / black bush or a shirley bassey as we call it is by far thwe superior whisky in the lower price range. Simple business transaction where both sides benefit. Such crap why are all these experts so called Irishmen living in US. Those whiskeys seem to get along just fine! The date 1608 listed all over the Bushmills bottle is not only the date The King of England allowed distilling to take place in Northern Ireland it is also the date the plantation of Ulster began. Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Just a point, Jameson is traditionally a Dublin Whiskey, originally distilled and blended in Bow Street in dublins Smithfield. Just dont do anything silly like order it on the rocksits way too good for that. This works in the same way that Protestants love their Guinness just as much as Roman Catholics in fact, I know a lot of Catholics who never drink the stuff. Also how does Navan end up in a Heineken? But I must say my absolute preference is Jameson 18 yr old. Still love it. Very easy arrangement. Whiskey, or "uisce beatha" in the Irish language, is an integral part of Ireland and Irish culture. I grew up in NYC with this popular myth engrained on my conciousness. Like seriously you hate us so much you wont drink our whiskey??? Its summer here in Oregon, which means barbecues, camping trips and river floats are on the agenda for the next few months. Ive been to the area that Bush Mills in manufactured and its total UFV territory. While were tossing around personal stories, about 20 years ago I met some younger guys from Glasgow at a local pub, and I mentioned how I knew that neither Scotland nor Ireland were altogether warm with England, but I didnt know how the Irish and Scots felt about each other. I like Jamesons.andI like BushmillsandI like Tullamore Dew.and I dont care if theyre made by Indonesian monks that hate my mothertheyre just tasty. Instead, American Catholics drew exten sively from an earlier movement launched by Father Mathew, a Catholic friar in Ireland.1 This article analyzes the ways in which lay Catholics adapted temperance 1. In 1989, Irish Distillers itself became a subsidiary of Pernod-Ricard following a friendly takeover. Oh, and as your average American that enjoys the brown, I contend that my enjoyment of scotch does not come at the expense of the Irish, Kentuckians, Tennesseeans or even Canadians! This is wayyyy late, and I apologize, but the record needed to be set straight. Another Figoli Quinn Website (Digital Ocean) | The Holy Roman Empire In 1886, John Power & Son began bottling their own whiskey, rather than following the practice customary at the time, of selling whiskey directly to merchants and bonders who would bottle it themselves. For the record I have had many a session all over the island both North and south. Should these facts come into the discussion when considering whether or not to indulge in a pint of the creamy delicious black stuff!? My wife has just blown raspberries on my belly whilst Ive been reading this crap seriously it doesnt matter which type of sky fairy you believe in bushmills black label vs tulamore dew is a close run thing and depends on how and what mood youre in rather that some stupid pagan affiliation. As Jameson only uses the bourbon barrels once, the color and flavor is more reminiscent of American bourbon. The Protestant Reformation began in Wittenberg, Germany, on October 31, 1517 . Today in Trader Joes, the checker looked at my bottle of Bushmills and then at me and asked, Catholic or Protestant? I had never heard that one before. After all, thats what the Jacobites were all about. What a treat. @Burnsy and Andrew: I dont drink Guiness or Jameson (for those particular reasons) I drink Paddys or Powers Whiskey and Murphys Stout!!!! It is a fact that Bushmills is distilled in Northern Ireland, and Jameson hails from County Cork in the Republic. No matter where it is produced. Tullamore Dew, Powers, Paddy, Midleton Very Rare, Green Spot, and . Jameson Is Catholic and Bushmills Is Protestant This is one of the myths encountered all the time, since Bushmills is located in predominantly Protestant Northern Ireland and Jameson is produced in the heavily Catholic Republic of Ireland. There are some amazing ones, FYI, I will leave it at that. in response to Irish whiskey is it catholic or protestant is irrelevant it is who is drinking it. Funny how these things work out, innit? Turned out not to be such a controversy. Not one of ya mentions Knappogue Castle. Bottom line Bushmills 16 yr has won my top pick in Irish whiskey over the 21 yr and Middletons, Redbreast and all the others. [1][2] A gold label adorned each bottle and it was from these that the whiskey got the name Powers Gold Label. Jameson was pretty much founded in 1780 when John Jameson a Scottish guy purchased the Bow Street Distillery, which at the time was one of the biggest distilleries in Ireland. [9] They were the first Dublin distillery to do so, and one of the first in the world. But my personal preference is Redbreast, a twelve-year pot still Irish whiskey produced at the Old Midleton Distillery and a real delight to sip while enjoying a late-night Irish breakfast of sausage, egg, pudding and soda bread. I serve it in Texas to my St. Patricks day guests and several times a year otherwise. Had drinks in the Irish Embassy (in Korea) as an invited Englishman. Many of these came from the grain mills along the Bush River, where the current distillery stands today. Along with a fellow sipper we have over most of the Irish brands listed here in this thread as part of a 30+ years Christmas gift exchange and tasting session. We dont live in the dark ages anymore, though clearly prejudice and ignorance persist. I live in a small town in Texas, I am Catholic and I am treated as if I am a leper. The fact that this blog has been going for so very long tells me the myth is true. I was playing golf in Ireland, and I asked my caddy what was his favorite whiskey. One more thing Since Pernod Ricard shut down the grain stills at the old Bushmills distillery, all of the grain whiskey in Bushmills is from Middleton! And if you just like something different then Cooleys your distillery (though that Michael Collins stuff is shite). Dear sir, I know you did a bit onSangrita, but I was wondering if you have a good recipe for Sangria. @Eamonn: always good to hear from a Dubliner. If you are not an active Catholic or Protestant. I can solve this argument. Hi, I actually know the reason behind the controversy. Bushmills I like, but I like Irish Whisky best of all the brown stuff. Historically a single pot still whiskey, the flagship Powers Gold Label brand was the first Irish whiskey ever to be bottled. The truth is that great whiskey is produced in both the north and south of Ireland. The young fella attending to the store asked if I wanted Catholic or Protestant then he placed a two bottles of Bushmills on the counter one plain and one Black label. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X85N-43REag. Counter-Reformation, also called Catholic Reformation or Catholic Revival, in the history of Christianity, the Roman Catholic efforts directed in the 16th and early 17th centuries both against the Protestant Reformation and toward internal renewal. The version that Im familiar with is, of course Jamison is Catholic and Bushmills is Protestant. Not buying a certain brand of product because of centuries of English overlordship of Ireland is just so stupid on so many levels. It resulted in the creation of a branch of Christianity called Protestantism, a name used collectively to refer to the many religious groups that separated from the Roman Catholic Church due to differences in doctrine. The waitress stared at me, and said in her thick brogue, This is an IRISH pub. I looked at her and said, okay, Ill have a Harp. Here in Montana, that conversation wouldnt have made any sense. Said to be the favorite of the Emerald Isle too. Granted, I dont mix my whiskey with Coke or Ginger Ale, so perhaps Im missing the best presentation of Powers Gold Label. Although I prefer my BUSHMILLS Fathers side Ulster.ancestors to America ca 1719. [1] History [ edit] I had the 15yr old Kilbeggan during a visit at the Cooley distillery a few years back, and it was damn tasty. During this period, when the Dublin whiskey distilleries were amongst the largest in the world, the family-run firms of John Power, along with John Jameson, William Jameson, and George Roe, (collectively known as the "Big Four") came to dominate the Irish distilling landscape, introducing several innovations. Talk about confused. The situation is ridiculous. This kind of stupidity makes us look like clowns in the eyes of most real Irish. Jamesons one-time MD (CEO in the USA) was Andrew Jameson. Is Jameson, Bushmills Really Catholic Versus Protestant Whiskey? Such days are long over, and Dew is rapidly making up the difference in sales, and has already overtaken Jamison in may countries in Europe. Whereas Bushmills is seen (by some) as British because it is located in Northern Ireland (which is part of the UK)and there is a political bias against it from some quarters. Im an American Catholic raised in the bible belt, West Virginia to be exact. Previous Post Elements Eight Rum Distilling of locally grown agricultural to produce alcohol is something that is not peculiar to Ireland. I do believe Irishness & Irish politics is whitewashed for Americans and presented from a certain political viewpoint. However, some of the buildings have been incorporated into the National College of Art and Design, and are now protected structures. The difference between the two has to do with the history of whiskey production in Ireland. All of it. red breast is my favorite single pot still whisky!! I see. Enough said I thought, and bought the next round. Bushmills released a statement saying:Its just one of the outrageous statements put about in an attempt to blacken our name. It is calles an ORANGEMANhas nothing to do with Syracuse University. Paddy is pretty readily available in the New York Metro Area, but Ive never seen it since I left for warmer climes. Anyway, both of your sources are wrong, but at least your father got the order right. The widely-accepted Irish-American version is that Jameson is Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is Protestant whiskey. Im not sure if this is truth or myth but I cannot drink Bushmills due to there even being a chance of truth in that because of the awful stories I heard about those F&[emailprotected]$&$ convicts (the black and tans) the Brits let loose on the people of Ireland. Redbreast IS great for sipping (especially for the price) and Powers Gold is fine too. Powers Gold Label is also wonderful and dirt cheap. If they do in fact have a Catholic Master Distiller, he is probably just the token worker. Is Misty protestant? The regular is fine; the Black Bush is nice if maybe too refined for me when I want a dram of Irish. I was born in West Belfast and I can tell you, that most Catholics prefer Jamesons. I think the Middleton hurt my wallet the most. Also absolutely no one gave a rats ass what my religion is & Dublin is currently commemorating the Easter Rising centennial! It makes things interesting. Do you have a clue what an ol Yankee could do there for wages? [4] At the time of his visit, the distillery was home to five pot stills, two of which with capacities of 25,000 gallons, were amongst the largest ever built. Stick to the booze recommendations, the mixed drink recipes, and the things you have first-hand experience with. and IRELAND vs SCOTLAND!! By far the biggest of this selection. . Currently, I go though a case of Jameson for every bottle of Bushmills that we sell at our bar. It is either good or it is not. Sorry, but I have always loved them both. I wanted to explore one of t, @teremana has been my new favorite tequila since t, Happy Repeal Day! I think Irish whiskey is like Scotch, meant for sipping, not mixing. Theres a scene in season 3 of The Wire that went right over my head: McNulty asks the bartender for a Jameson, and the bartender asks is Bushmills ok? McNulty comes back with aw, thats Protestant whiskey! Grudgingly, he accepts, but asks for it neat. I can guarantee no one here in Dublin or Ireland gives a crap either way. It is the oldest licensed distillery by 200 years and was once owned by a Belfast barman who get this was a teetotaller and secretly wrote religous tracts damning the Demon Drink! Powers is readily available in the Balto/Wash area. Redbreast was a recent taste and I liked that a lot. The northern Protestant states, angered by the violation of their rights to choose granted in the Peace of Augsburg, banded together to form the Protestant Union. Generally, it is a little less expensive than Jameson. As a good Roman Catholic, Ive always raised my Jameson in tribute to my Irish Catholic brethren (actually I like Jameson a little more than Bushmills anyway) until, on a recent trip to Ireland with my Irish-American Wife (nee Powers), I bought a bottle of Redbreast on a lark. Mind you the order as I see it goes Knappogue 51 > Midleton Rare > Knappogue 15 > Redbreast > Black Bush > Knappogue 92 > Tullamore Dew (makes for the best Irish Coffee) > Then take your pick of the Jamesons/Bushmills/Cooley offerings. When I explained this myth to customers in Ireland they all had a good laugh. Mmmm..Middleton distillery. Were not bothered by any of that old bullshit now. Asked the guide about it. As long as its no longer going on in the company today then enjoy. The Catholic Whiskey in Dublin was John Powers. I am pretty sure that if you visited the Guinness brewery in Dublin your guide would not have mentioned the fact about the companys discrimination against Catholics, let alone advise on boycotting it. Jameson Irish Whiskey is produced in Midleton, Ireland, though the original home of the brand is in Dublin. Spent a crap of $$$ too so we could compare them all side by side. To complicate the issue even more, Bushmills has been owned by a big drinks corporation since 1972 (first Irish Distillers, now Diageo), but before then it was owned by a Scottish Jew! Raised going to church every goddamned Sunday. @Darby OGill. Great smooth flavor and a soft long finish. Religion and booze dont go well together so its a subject that perhaps should be avoided. But NONE of this has anything to do with Whiskey brands and everything to do with prejudices. Get over it and drink what you feel. 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