I'd look to those and see if something strikes you! I'm looking for a 1-ski quiver. Both sound good for your application, but I think you're going to lean towards the Atomic. Thanks, Hi Se, Im 42 years old 6'2" 225 mostly ski midwest and east. While we wouldnt peg the 102 as one of the better floaters of this category, its certainly got its fair share of tip rocker to help with the float, and the 140 mm shovel width doesnt hurt either. I've had to stay away from the mantra the past few years due to their lack of camber..is the 2019 M5 the year I should come back? After a number of demos and research, I purchased the Rossignol Experience Ti 88s (173cm) earlier this season. The bad news, is that it can be a bit more difficult to do- but thats why were here. The Kore and the Rustler are definitely lighter, with the Rustler having great poise and maneuverability thanks to the shape and build. Hi John! It's not an overly stiff ski, and I think would perform really well for what you're looking to do. The Enforcer was smooth and quick edge to edge with decent float but not super stable at high speeds and the Kore 105 was fun with good float although lacking true carving ability on firm snow and was easily deflected in chop. I'm leaning toward the M5 Mantra, but also like the QST99 and the 98TI. SE. Any suggestions? I really like them also. I loved both. The metal also gives this ski a strong and confident feeling in a high-speed carved turn no matter what the snow conditions may be. It uses their Ultra-Light wood core, which is supported by Innegra Mesh throughout the ski. Do you need metal? On the other end of the spectrum, they don't have quite the firm snow performance of the Bonafide, but they're much less demanding and a more forgiving ski overall. Basically, I can ski anything on the mountain but maybe not with the greatest of form or flow. Thanks in advance. While it would be difficult to come up with one area in which the Camox excels, well just have to state that its best asset is its well-roundedness. So in the end I feel that my current ski is holding me back. I'm looking at the following sticks: Hope that helps! Will ski pretty much anything, anywhere on the mountain and prefer exploring off piste then zooming around on groomers all day (70/30). I really like the versatility/profile of the enforcer 100, but I'm worried about all the weight. So you can measure yourself, or you can just check out our handy-dandy chart below. HI Hiserski! You folks offer an impeccable and generous service. If the box is left blank, the skis and bindings will be sent separately and unmounted. Would you recommend the Nordica unleashed 98 over the enforcer 100? You value confidence and quality and a quiet ski for high-performance ripping. That's just barely taller than you, which usually works well for the QST 99. The Kastle MX 99 is stiff, powerful, and holds an edge better than just about anything in the 100 mm category. SE. My main passion is freeride however only skiing a few weeks of the year now, and in the alps, powder is never guaranteed. Considering your weight, I'm thinking either QST 99 or Ranger 98 Ti would be best. Its a quick-turning ski, though, so a fantastic choice for woods and bumps, even with the stiffnessthe lightness more than makes up for it in the maneuverability department. If you like skiing very fast in wide-open spaces, regardless of snow conditions, then these are the skis for you. Overall I would describe them as a fun, playful ski. Thanks. I really like the Ti but can't find them in Canada. Who it's For:Anyone that wants a fun, versatile, playful all mountain ski that will perform well in a variety of terrain and snow conditions will really enjoy skiing the Origin 96. Thank you for the comment! I am switching from Rossignol Scratch BCs from 10 years ago and demo'd the M5 Mantras yesterday and couldn't believe the ease in carving up groomers, but it's a much heavier ski than I'm used to. The M-Pro is stiff in the tail, so make sure you take that into account as to whether you want that or not. I also really like the 4frnt msp 99s. Like the Ranger 99, the Kore gets narrower underfoot as the sizes decrease below 177 (and slightly wider in the 184 and 191), so take that into account in your decision-making process. I've been on an old 165cm 2007 Fischer RX6 that's delaminating pretty badly, and I'm looking for some new gear. If you're not looking to drop too much in terms of performance, I'd go Camox. Really honest and good ideas. 60 % in the piste and 40 % trees / off-piste. Like Volkl and Atomic, K2 has positioned metal along the edges of the ski. It still holds an edge well and actually has good vibration damping, but not as quick edge to edge as the QST. Dennis Ranalter calls it "the perfect all-rounder". Still charge pretty hard and value edge grip and carving abilities along with quickness off-piste. SE, Hi. Youre that good at skiing. Youre not scared of having a bit of power underfoot, especially in something this wide. Yes, you will certainly miss the playfulness of the Rossi versus the E100, but I think it's worth it. You are not scared of speed, but also want something easy to handle. Who it's For: You're not the most aggressive skier on the hill and you like to spend more time off the trail than on it. I've read that some of you Ski The East, so any advice would be appreciated! Required fields are marked *. Rossignol uses their damp tech rubber inserts in the tips and tails in order to quiet the skis down, and then to add a measure of power and grip, their titanal beam exists underfoot to give good edge grip as well as stability at speed. In most cases, this is the right call, but skiers should be geo-conscious before buying more than they can handle. It's all about compromise, right? The longer tip rocker makes this ski a great floater, but since the taper is mostly early, and not too dramatic, it has a straighter feel to the initiation phase of the turn. I want something that'll allow for my more freestyle mind as I get more comfortable on skis, 180s to 360s and some cliff hucks but still able to lay it down at high speeds. I think the 184 is a bit of a reach. It would help your progress in moguls and trees, so if you wanted to focus more on that progression than firm snow, you could pick up a Kore. Love the reviews. Like the Bonafide, it uses tip and tail rocker and some early taper, but both are quite subtle. The construction of the Mantra marks the introduction of Volkl's new Titanal Frame construction. Ultimately, with this ZX 100, its all about the tip shape and profile, and how they combine to handle the softer snow. Every day and am about to pull the trigger on a pair then flip flop between them and am right back to the drawing board. That stiffness also translates to torsional stiffness, meaning the Kore 99 will hold an edge with the best of the best in this category. Ski lengths on our chart above will fall somewhere between your nose and eyebrows. I love the Bent 100 as well, but it's pretty flexible. It's just a matter of whether you're willing to give up a little bit of responsiveness on firm snow. I ski in Utah at a variety of the ski hills. I am looking for a dedicated tree/off-trail ski, so something wider and more forgiving in un-groomed snow, but can still grip given the ice that so often lurks in the glades of New England. $226.06. I'm 5.9ft weight 185 lbs ski primarily in the Alps, all slopes and love steep offpist skiing, couloirs/chutes etc. This is not a bad thing, and when you get to the underfoot region as well as the tail, it becomes apparent that the M-Pro likes to finish a turn in a very strong manner. Talk to a Skier: href='/Chairlift-Chat/DPS-Phantom-2-Wax-System-Explanation'. SE. Any help would be great . Yup, those are the lengths I was thinking of. I do get out west occasionally and will ski the entire mountain with a preference to ungroomed soft snow. Trying to decide between the BC 100 and QST 98 and Im torn. The shape and construction combined give the MX 99 an exceptionally strong, precise feel. The snow was fresh, wet and chopped up. It's not an exceptionally forgiving all mountain ski for most skiers, but it has that high level of power, vibration damping, and stability that comes along with that much metal. Hi SE, Have fun! On the other hand, the Unleashed is a little softer than the Enforcer with a more pronounced tail to offer a freeride application. Kids and a new wife have re-energized me and I got back out this winter, surprised how fast it came back to me, SUPER STOKED!!! The sick days (104)float much better than the bc (100). The mondo point size is the generic boot size that every boot maker uses it. At 100 mm underfoot, these skis have a decent footprint as well, so if you ever decide to get out of the snow park and ski some real snow, the Blend can get down with that as well. If you measure a Men's 8/Mondopoint 26, please select 26.5, for example. Hi there. Because of this, we often refer to it as a skiers ski as it does require input and steering to get it to turn. Hi Tom! Also something that wants to and feels more natural in the air. You are looking for the nicest skis ever made. Good Day everyone! It's really quite versatile for a wide range of terrain, and also performs a little better at slower speeds than the M5, so might work better when going slow with the family. Do those make sense? ), Hi Kevin! The Lift Line Blog; Shop similar items: Atomic Skis; Mens All Mountain Skis; . The two skis Ive narrowed it down to are the Enforcer 100 in 185 and Mantra M5 in 177. Im looking at the QST 99s, Rustler 10s, and Sky 7HDs but open to suggestions. The Ranger 98 Ti offers the stability and vibration damping that aggressive skiers value, but in a weight that's light enough to justify using it as an alpine touring ski. Who it's For: You like to seek out soft snow, yet you don't want your skis to be so focused on soft snow performance that they're no fun to ski anywhere else. 34% Off $725.00. Have you read the Blister Gear Review on each one yet? I like them but they seem a bit light and chatter in harder pack snow. Still have questions? Talk to a Skier: href='/Chairlift-Chat/DPS-Phantom-2-Wax-System-Explanation'. I ski 50/50 east/west and generally stay within the resort. I guess it comes down to how often you're truly skiing in fresh snow, and for most people, it's not all that often. I would probably put a shift binding on these - I know the enforcers are heavy but I am currently also touring on a heavy setup - to be able to use them for small tours that are mainly focussed on the downhill. A friend recommended the Nordica Enforcers 100. Check it out! The 169 Enforcer 100 would probably be more akin to the 172 Atomic. If you're looking for that one pair that really does a good job of hard snow and soft snow versatility, the Rustler 9 is pretty hard to beat. My buddy's kids all have the BC's (aged 12-20 and expert) and love them. I am an advanced very aggressive skier (5'9'', 165-ish, 21yrs) who spends 100% of my time skiing in Austria. What binding would you recommend? Combine this with the fact that the Enforcer 100 uses more rocker than anything we've talked about so far (50% total) and you've got a very smooth ski that stays stable on firm snow, holds an edge well, but also allows you to pivot and smear the ski. Can't wait to hit the slopes, thanks for your help. Press J to jump to the feed. If you want to see the 2022 version of these skis in action, check out the video below by Curated Experts for more information. In your description of your skiing, I got the impression you spend a fair amount of time on groomers and like to ski somewhat fast sometimes (Birds of Prey is what comes to mind). Great review! But perhaps Ive got enough weight to get the 184 Mantra to react just as well? Dan, Hi Dan! Beginner skiers are classified as people who have never ever skied, right up to those just starting to dabble in Intermediate trails. I found the Enforcer the "funnest" of the three with the best mix of performance but was looking for something with similar stability but more soft snow performance and slashy/pivotable in steep/deepish west coast powder. So with that said what would you recommend for an old east cost bump skier who wants to soft it up and have quicker edge to edge? Which length would you recommend: 1.77 or 1.84? Plus last year my kids just wanted to ski the glades all day, we love it in the trees when the weather gods allow. Because it's lighter, it will get deflected more than heavier skis. In addition, the fiberglass laminates keep things energetic and poppy throughout, while the PU is a stable and damp material. If you like skiing switch (backwards) you don't have too many options, especially out of the skis in this comparison article. The boat-hull inspired shape in the tip and tail boost the ski's float and overall performance in deeper snow conditions. I think I am understanding that I am less concerned about ripping down groomers, although fun, and more interested in a ski that will be fun and more manageable in the trees, bumps and lighter for uphill touring. SE, Hi Kyle! I have heard good things about the Black Crows line. You sound like a QST skier to me. Using Salomons construction techniques involving their Metal Twin Frame, these skis benefit from two sheets of titanal, with windows open in the forebody and the tail. What sets the Camox apart is a great blend of positive camber underfoot with moderate taper in the tips and tails. I still ski on a 1998 Salomon Super Force 92S in a 203 from time to time, so I'm right there with you. Part of what makes the QST so fun is the blend of power and maneuverability, and I would worry a little bit that the 188 cm would take away some of that. Have fun! You'll get more stability at speed than the QST 92, but the turned up tail also allows for easier short/slow turns. As a reminder, here at SkiEssentials.com we don't believe one ski is better than another. What's an appropriate length for me? Hope that helps! I am looking for a ski which I can use 50/50 on- and off-piste. The QST 92 should be at the top of your list, as should the Blizzard Rustler 9. Can you help? SE, Hi SE, The first ski in this comparison that could be described as a twin tip, the Ranger 102 FR is another ski with some obvious freeski influence in its design and construction. Atomic removes a serious amount of material from the center of the ski, which really brings the overall weight down. SE. I am an advanced skier (5'10'', 170-ish, 31yrs) who spends 95% of my time skiing the North-East. Very smooth, strong, and stable, so if that's what you're into, I'm not going to steer you away, especially since I'm a huge fan of the ski as well. thanks! Free shipping. I've got a question where I'm not sure whether it's time for new skis this season. Hello, great article! SE. Rossignol Blackops Day 92 . While its not the best floater on this list, its strengths lie more in the charging through crud and chop. The Salomon's are great skis for sure, but the partial metal layer in the Blizzards are a step up in terms of performance. Ive just had the 2018 and 2020 Rossignol sky 7 HDs in a row (which I absolutely loved btw) but fancy something ever so slightly stiffer. I'm 40 year-old, 5'8",170 lb male skier who likes to spend most of my time in the trees, off-trail or diving into powder. More weight means the skis will feel softer, and shorter. Going with a wider ski would actually slow your progression a little bit. The Blizzard Rustler 9 is also in that area, but is more like the Pinnacle than the Rossignol. It crosses over between different terrain and snow conditions very well, and is a more forgiving ski than those with lots of metal and less rocker, but don't forget about that metal. With Armadas Articulated Titanal Banding, skiers are able to use this wider shovel to their advantage, as its supple and damp enough to rip through crud and chop while being stable and strong enough to hold a strong edge on the corduroy. After a long time snowboarding. Enforcer 104 the heaviest of the group but decent tail rocker and nice flex that's money for bumps and trees. What do you think? The most dramatic part of the ski is the amount of splay in the tips. Certainly quicker than the Enforcer, the Ripstick makes a strong turn as well. I think the best thing to do here is to get a ski that blends the power and precision of the Mantra with a more playful, soft-snow oriented ski for your sidecountry and soft snow adventures. HI David! The Atomic Backland Bent Chetler was one of the most sought-after skis in this lineup. I think the move from the Bonafide to the Rustler makes sense. Any insight you can offer between these skis would be awesome! The QST is also more rockered than the M-Pro, especially in the tail, so it is a bit more playful, although not quite as powerful. What would your recommend? Atomic Bent Chetler 100 Reviews: . They're a bit more user-friendly than the Mantra, but a bit better on-trail than the QST. Mark, Hi Mark! Have fun! It just wants to carve clean and round turns with stability and power, and were all about it. I'm trying to decide on a ski to demo and possibly buy for next season. 6'3" 200 pound mid-40s ex-racer & instructor here. I demoed the Salomon QST 99 in the 188 length last weekend and really enjoyed them. I would say I ski 60/40 groomers to off-piste with an uphill dawn patrol trip 1 -2 times a week. Good, not great. Weight Weight single piece (g) / Size (cm) : 1800 / 184 Skill Level Beginner Advanced Expert BENT CHETLER 120 Any recommendation? Just for mogul performance, the 93 will be quicker and easier than the 100. Weve had these in over two feet of fresh snow, and frankly, they do just fine. July 13, 2018 by Luke Koppa. But for a mid to upper-90 underfoot ski, I love the Soul Rider! I have been skiing Line Chronics for the past 5 years, they are pretty narrow underfoot and only like 176 in length. Murray, Hi Murray! Thanks, Thanks! Like to rip through the trees, love the steep and deep and am enjoying the bumps more and more all the time. As always, there's a trade-off, and in this case, it's stability and damping, so be prepared for that. If youve looked all over and still cant find your BSL, its also acceptable to measure along the bottom of the boot from the very tip of the toe, to back of the heel- just make sure you measure in Millimeters! I'd get on the Origin 106 too if you can, you might be surprised by that ski. I'm a strong intermediate to advanced skier, 53yo, 6'1" 205lbs in Alberta, ski mostly Louise, Sunshine, Kicking Horse. I love the Soul Rider as an all-mountain ski. SE. With some tweaks to the 2022 model, skiers get more length options (yay!) What would you say should make me go for the qst over benchetlers (or vice versa) and any other shouts similar to these 2? Cheers from the Great White North. I liked these skis because they are so maneuverable and forgiving. With a slightly longer than average turn radius of 20 meters in the 178 cm length, these skis make for a great choice in the bumps and trees, while the metal underfoot and through the tail allow for proper carved turns on firm snow. Skiers who prefer speed and flotation in the fresh snow. It's about as versatile and friendly of a ski that you'll find. I'd say 180 is great! thanks Which do you think hold up best in terms of carving ability to the Rossi Experience 100? Maneuverability, Torsional Stiffness/Edge Grip, Quickness. Ok, so maybe not the best, but you certainly could be a contendah, kid. This way, the skier still has proper input as to the shape and duration of the turn. This is all good stuff for pure and versatile all-mountain skiing, and were loving the energy and attitude from the new Maverick 100 Ti. Hope that helps! Hey guys, Thanks, Hi Brian! I've been devouring your videos and ski tests since I discovered them while shopping for new skis; you provide a fantastic resource for those of us who don't have the opportunity to demo everything! I size up. Hi Nick! have fun! With a bit of extra length, the skis will have a more accurate flex and better weight distribution. I raced and currently coach racing so I've decided I need something that I can demonstrate drills on but still take the kids into the trees when they lose focus and need a break. We're looking for your Mondo Point size, and the conversion is easy! Felt a little chatter on the hard pack at times but they were better than i thought they would be on fast groomers. Do you have a suggestion, including length for my size and weight? Thanks for the great reviews. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Terrain mostly 70% off piste and 30% on. 2020 Atomic Bent Chetler 100 Used Demo Skis w Bindings 164cm Sale: $599.99 39% Off $985.00. This guide is for Alpine Skis. I do a lot of tree runs and love to find powder but I also love to rip groomers and charge more than carve on them. Hi Noah! Let me know what you think! Aggressive skiers who spend most of their time on-trail. SE. High-speed skiers who love a challenge, whether its terrain or snow conditions. SE. It has the torsional stiffness to hold an edge on firm snow, the stability needed to ski fast and aggressively, yet it's also light enough to tour with without being exhausting. If you measure a Men's 8/Mondopoint 26, please select 26.5, for example. The lower rise rocker gives the ski better edge contact on firm snow, which has improved carving performance. The Salomon QST 92 comes to mind right away. If you're looking to blend light weight and performance, I'd take a strong look at the Elan Ripstick 96, or 106, if you're looking for wider. Im a 47 year old male, 5,11 and 170 pounds. Thoughts on the enforcer 100 or other skis I should consider? SE, Hi SE! Expert: Hands down, youre the best skier on the mountain. Thanks so much in advance guys! Then rocker technology came along, and, long story short, theres way more room for preference and interpretation than ever before. If you're looking for another choice, check out the K2 Pinnacle 95--very maneuverable and super-fun on the groomers. The maneuverability of the Tracer 98 in the 180 cm length would be off the charts for you, and shouldn't feel too unstable. Skill wise, youll be able to control your speed with snowplowing, wedging, or forming a pizza. If you like park, pipe, woods, bumps, powder, and groomers, youre sure to love the Holyshred. Now I'm confused, I'm looking for a ski like the Kore that will absorb the big blows in chopped up snow, vs throwing me. Have fun! Much lighter, more rocker, less metal, etc. I like the extra stability on groomers, and with 102mm waist widths, the extra length allows me to use these skis in light powder on those rare East Coast days. Built with Atomics HRZN tech in the tips and tails, this ski does float better than a lot of other 100s, allowing skiers the flexibility to use this in the park, pipe, woods, bumps, groomers, or bowls. Ive looked into a few more freeride based skis on your list, just wondering what ski would suit my skiing style best and still have the width to float on snow out west. Think I need something stiffer. If youre looking to buy a powder ski, the natural notion is to go a bit longer. Can you compare the 2 i mentioned. 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