In 1942 and early 1943 thisfactory still used prewar style screwed in sling slot insertsand did not produce simplified version, like was done in Izhevsk. Allow the stain to dry. There are two kinds of people, the good people and the ones that aggravate the hell out of the good people". If you decide to remove them, it's easier to do it before disassembling the rest of the rifle. by steelbuttplate Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:46 pm, Post 1943 Tula stock with screwed in sling slot inserts. Mosin Nagant Sling Escutcheon, Screw Type Our Price: $12.50 . Oiled and waxed. HOME; GUNS FOR SALE. Be sure to do this in a well ventilated area with gloves. Scorpion recoil pad: None of these features were used by the Tula factory in, It is commonly believed that grooves (cutouts) for rear barrel bands release are postwar addition. Basic elements of stocks, that roughly allow usto estimate its production period, are sling slots. All good shooters eventually, except one. The factory continued to produce stocks with these inserts up to the end of the production in late 1944. Switch to 1000 grit wet/dry sandpaper and oil. Mosin stocks are usually made of birch, which has fairly small pores. There are many resources online if you need more detailed directions. But repair documentation show only two lacquers - VK-1 (postwar abbreviation is -5119), and MCH-52 lacquer that was sprayed when stock was placed to the electrostatic field. Hence, upgrading to a better stock might provide you more room for attaching mods such as scopes, bipods, slings, lights, and lasers. Comes in a set of 4, with threads and flat head intact. MOSIN NAGANT M91 TRIGGER . by steelbuttplate Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:47 pm, Post I never bother with it, but if you want to invest some time doing it now, you might save a little time later sanding the finish smooth. Set of 4 original sling swivel escutcheon screws for Mosin Nagant rifles, USED in *Very Good* condition. The Mosin Nagant is one of the most popular rifles in the United States, not only is the rifle itself cheap, but the ammo is dirt cheap and easy to find. As we shall see, there are few other guns as rich in history, performance and practicallyespecially for the price. CT buyers must be FFL holder. It'll generally take at least 2 coats, usually 3 or 4, rarely more. Sportsters and all Hunting Rifles Forum, For Sale, For Trade, or Want to Buy - Market Place, OT.Your "Other" Hobbies and Collections. I didn't remove the barrel band springs, cross bolt / recoil bolt or sling escutcheons. Your process and results may vary. Starting in 1946 the majority of stocks in M44 production were issued with a toe splice. Rough wartime replacement stock made by an unknown repair depot. See it. Birch wood. Some people may feel that shellac is more appropriate for a Mosin, but polyurethane is easier to apply and much more resistant to solvents, water, abrasion and pretty much everything else. Email. Wartime pattern stock, made by Arsenal #1. I recommend a satin finish because I think it just suites the character of the rifle better and a gloss finish will highlight every dent and gouge in the stock. The can says it "Gently dissolves old finishes - preserves woods original color and character." In Stock 15234726: Mosin-Nagant 3 MOSIN NAGANT Double Ammo Pouches 7.62x54r 91/30 M44 M3 BuyItNow!-0 $12.00: In Stock 1. Before I saw the rifle, I had planned to restore it to the same condition as a typical new rifle. Nov 30, 2008. The M1944 (M44), a new carbine based on the M38 was developed. This will be a brief overview of Mosin Nagant M91/30 disassembly. Until 1945 there was no production of laminated stocks (despite some online sources claiming otherwise). In 1936 a new standard for M91/30 production was adopted, this regulated M91/30 production operations - "Technical conditions #1525". Next, use 400 - 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper and oil. He has two and is thinking about the third.. Should we warn him or let him fall into the same hole we did? Sand with 220 to 320 grit until nice and smooth. M38 and M44 carbines had the same patternhandguard caps as the M91/30 riflemade by the particular factory at that moment. Only registered users can write reviews. Both have NO escutcheon inserts. If you still want to improve the operation of the bolt by sanding and polishing, just look for the places on the bolt and receiver that rub together and make sure they're smooth. You can also use a brown paper bag, but it can leave lint in the finish. I decided to completely strip the stock, stain it and finish with polyurethane. The results can be truly suprising. Rubbing alcohol is probably the easiest and cheapest way. Take a look! Barrel Parts. Start with a Dremel and a "rubber polishing point" to smooth out any rough spots. History. Because the dye is water based, it will raise the grain. Identical construction was used by Tula and Izhevsk factories. The process causes the wood fibers to swell up, hopefully returning to their original shape and resulting in a smooth surface. Curse as you fight with the bands and gouge the stock with a screwdriver trying to pry them forward. Izhevsk and Tula made spliced stocks had a V shape joint, repairs made by the Main Artillery Directorate depots, and repair depots had dovetail or U-shape (arc) joints. by Junk Yard Dog Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:15 pm, Post The locations where they were stamped are mentioned in repair documentation for each weapon type. New? You don't have to clean the barrel to restore your Mosin, but it'll probably help to prevent contamination during the bluing process. Mosin Videos, and "How to's" (Sub-Forum). Each factory, duringdifferent production periods, had its own unique combination of features. DETAILS >>. Issue of the application or old laquer. Reviews of different Mosin Models. I've tried several times and the best I can manage is a good result - but definitely not professional quality. The surfaces do not need to be perfectly smooth. Kingston, NY 12401 Phone: 866.686.7424 Fax: 877.486.7278 My stock didn't have much grain, so dying wouldn't be much better than staining. It used an integral, single stack magazine, loaded from the clip chargers, with capacity for 5 rounds. Seller: DENVER GUN ROOM. SPONSORED Slide the magazine / trigger guard assembly down and out of the stock. Rinse the metal with very hot water. The faster you work, the less rust you'll have. Mosin Nagant 91/30 Stock, w/ Metal Parts & Repair Section Cutout *Very Good* $149.95. ATI Mosin Nagant 7.62x54R Monte Carlo Stock. Number 1: Post-WWII Hungarian Mosin-Nagant Style Sniper Rifle with Accessories. Re-lacquerd postwar by a Soviet repair depot. Maximizing the Mosin-Nagant Battle Rifle. After about 15 minutes I wiped off the excess. If you decide to dye the wood, I recommend Rit cloth dye. I ultimately decided to spend some time cleaning it up and looking presentable on the range, but not perfect. Generally, you should double the grit when you move up. Mosin is more than hundred years old! Press the barrel band springs and try to slide off the bands. We have lots of parts for Mosin Nagant rifles in stock. by srtjeeplover95 Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:29 pm, Post Copper rivets were typical to Izhevsk (brass rivets are unusual to Izhevsk), while Tula used both copper and brass rivets. mosinnagant.net - The Homepage For Mosin Nagant Rifles And Collectors. M91/30 Cleaning Rods 19.00. I won't cover my bluing procedure because the bluing you use may require a different procedure, but I'll offer some helpful tips. Extremely Popular and Highly Desirable M-44 Mosin Nagant Carbine Rifles. In this case it indicates that the item was produced by a particular repair depot. There are many resources online if you need more detailed directions. Both have NO escutcheon inserts My questions are what plant would the 1942 be from? Boyds Classic Camo Stock Mosin Nagant 91-30/t53/m-38/m-44 53 Rifle Boyds Classic is a compilation of the design elements found to be the most elegant and user friendly examples of the classic style. 91/30 Mosin Nagant in 7.62x54R with matching bolt and reciever, sold with accessories and a scout mounted AIM 2-7x32 scope. Author Topic: Mosin Sling Hole Escutcheons (Read 6595 times) 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. The new sleek Mosin Nagant synthetic stock comes with a non-slip 1" rubber butt pad, a great answer to the harsh kick of the potent 7x54R ammunition. It's usually easier to achieve a smooth, gloss finish if you fill the pores. It is widely believed that the "box with a cross line" is "refurbishment marking". On the American market, the 1891 Mosin Nagant has gone from bargain beater to a prized mil surplus possession. Because time is a factor, you may want to only blue half the rifle at a time. Reviews of different Mosin Models. (Optional step) Apply stain (usually wipe on, wait 5 minutes, wipe off). But now the wood seemed too dark and dingy. M44 muzzle break, Mosin Nagant ammo stripper clips, and a Mosin tactical stock with a bipod. You guys are funny33 mosins My number I've had is at least twice that, about half I don't have anymore. But even at the princely sums of $300 or $400, the rifle is still worth every penny. by qz2026 Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:02 am, Post It's ballistically similar to the .30-06 Springfield. Move up to a finer grit and repeat. I mix the dye with about equal parts distiller water in an old glass jar. I started with 90% rubbing alcohol and green scrubbing pads. Please See other items . Items in the Price Guide are obtained exclusively from licensors and partners solely for our members' research needs. Since very late 1945 to early 1946 these inserts were used on M44 carbines and seldom onregular M91/30 rifles. After 1500 to 2000 grit sandpaper, move to the Dremel and polishing compound. Replace your lost screws with originals! The wood didn't seem to absorb much stain. Construction is atypical to soviet stocks - beech was very rarely used in soviet stocks, barrel band springs are riveted instead of welded, sling slot insert are blued (sometimes they are not) and so on. Very early M91/30 stocks were finished like late M91 stocks - the stock was "painted" with a composition that was made from: - decoction of the white (yellow) sandal wood (Santalum album) in water with addition of potassium carbonate; Those decoctions were made separately, later they were merged together and Iron(II) sulfate was added. Most there wasn't much wrong with them. Pull the trigger and slide the bolt back and out of the receiver. In the case of M91/30's and carbines, refurbished postwar, repair depot markings that identify where a rifle/carbine was refurbishedwas stamped near the factory marking (mainly on the barrel shank, sometimes on the front end of the receiver). A lot of the ones I bought were listed as gunsmith specials, a few SKS as well. All markings of this type are actually repair depot logos (trademarks). This modification allowed using shorter (1185 mm instead 1425 mm) and more narrow (185 mm instead of 200 mm) stock blanks. In theAutumn of 1941 Izhevsk brass caps on the handguard were replaced with steel caps (blued), they were stacked instead of riveted. $789.95. However, this was introduced into production only by Izhevsk because the Tula factory already stopped M91/30 production by this time, After some wartime simplifications were introduced into production by the Izhevsk factory in 1941, cutouts for barrel bands release were eliminated, late. You may need to carefully tap them out of the stock. Izhevsk used this pattern up to the end of the production in 1942. All Rifles, Firearms, Mosin Nagant. Used condition as pictured, with signs of use and wear. Other people (including myself) just work around the bolts. They were also stamped with the repair depot marking. Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950. Mosin Nagant 1891/30 Folding stock. For a Mosin, I'd recommend mixing 50% red and 50% brown dye. Mosin Nagant Accessories Hopefully the dent will smooth out. 0. They were not produced within the borders of the USSR, production dependedon import supplies. M91/30. In mid 1931 the factory switched to oval shape ends, similar to the Izhevsk pattern (Izhevsk used such a shape since the mid 1890's). * In mid 1934 the Izhevsk factory issued a very small number of beech stocks. Phone: (660) 259-2832. In the autumn of1941, a large amount ofsimplifications were introduced to theM91/30 production in Izhevsk. Cosmoline Is your rifle covered in it? You can also apply a gloss finish and buff it to a nice satin finish with 0000 steel wool or a 3M brand synthetic steel wool pad. 1943 - early 1944 Izhevsk PU sniper rifle stock with insert in the rear. 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Hard times, no wasting of parts. 1943 Tula stock with stamped sling slot inserts. Wear gloves to prevent fingerprints in the finish. 91/30 Stock New Old Stock $ 49.95 Add to cart; Mosin-Nagant Bolt head - Bare $ 15.00 Add to cart; Mosin-Nagant Bolt Stop Screw $ 3.00 Add to cart; Mosin . The basement on the Mosin-Nagant is three, some places four times what it was a few years ago. Welcome to the board, pictures would help, but it sounds like your rifle is made at Izhevsk, and has a wartime expedient stock. The Izhevsk factory produced the milled type until mid 1941, they switched to thetamped type only in the Autumn of 1941. Archangel AA9130OD OPFOR Precision Stock OD Green Synthetic Fixed with Adjustable Cheek Riser for Mosin Nagant M1891. You can make your first post here! Mosin Nagant Sling Swivels Our Price: $13.50 (1) . S&K Mosin Nagant Mount - Mosin Nagant Scout M. Sold by. Good, but needs more work. 8541tactical.com - Tactical Rifle Painting by John McQuay. by Darryl Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:17 pm, Post Copyright 2022 Classic Firearms, LLC. Sold in sets of two. However, please did not accept this version as completely correct, merely a theory. No gunsmith needed, easy to install. Use a small screwdriver in the band gaps and gently pry them open a bit. Don't nominate yourself for a Darwin Award. Apply more water until the dent is saturated. Multiplylacquering with VK-1 (according to prewar standards) was replaced with double, or even single. Don't nominate yourself for a Darwin Award. ProMag Mosin Nagant Archangel Tactical Stock Up to $9.50 Off w/ Free S&H 2 models 4.5 rating with 15 reviews review & rate 21 Questions & 23 Answers Pro Mag Archangel Mosin Nagant Stock Pro Mag Archangel Mosin Nagant Stock, O.D. weight 2lb 6 oz. Also, be sure to oil all metal as soon as the solvent has evaporated to prevent rust. It only turns one way. Identical construction was used by Tula and Izhevsk factories. I am not a gunsmith. You can paint your Mosin. According to the very first M91/30 drawings, handguards were made from birch or walnut and had brass caps, locked with brass or copper rivets (both were allowed). The Mosin-Nagant is simply a bolt action rifle fed by an internal magazine. Mosin Nagant 91 Front band Retaining Spring N91024 $4.00 Mosin Nagant 91 Accessory Kit N91052 Contains: 2 ammo pouches 1 soft pouch 1 sling 1 oiler 1 combo tool 2 jags and a few assorted parts $22.95 1 review (s) Mosin Nagant 91 Lower band Retaining Spring N91022 Size 1 3/4 " $4.00 Mosin Nagant Original Double Spout Oiler N91050 $3.95 Everyone has a different method, but I recommend washing it off with a solvent, like mineral spirits. The launch of the M91/30 production in 1931 did not impact the stock construction - it was identical to late 1920's dragoon M91's. 1930's produced M91/30 stocks had screwed inserts into the sling slots (escutcheons). Milled type is the earlier variation, but for a long time period both types were produced together. Used. During war, factories were overloaded with production of complete rifles and were not able to produce the necessary quantity of replacement stocks (however, some quantity was produced). 1942 Tula factory #536 NKV stock without VK-1 laquer finish, 1943 factory #74 stock with unidetified soaking and without laquering. This gun stock quickly transforms your rifle into a sleek, modern weapon. The wood was oily after stripping off the shellac. Other people use break cleaner, oven cleaner, steam, boiling water, heat from the sun or various other things. First, inspect the chamber and make sure the rifle is not loaded. Whenever I get time to clean these things up I will post some pics. Sold by. Polishing is a process that can require quite a bit of time and patience. Lexington, MO 64067. More Information Reviews Only registered users can write reviews. Because of that, since the 1920's the Soviets made an intensive search for replacements. David's Collectibles Po Box 897, Grifton, North Carolina, 28530 Phone 1-252-746-2040 Fax 1-252-746-2525 . Before you start sanding, it's important not to sand any surface that's critical to the proper and safe operation of the rifle. Sometimes traces of the Tula and Izhevsk factory markings can be found near a "box with cross line" marking, this means that the stock was repaired by Arsenal #1. On the left - prewar handguard with brass caps and copper (brass) rivets, in the middle - with steel stcked caps, on the reight - with brass stacked caps. Showing all 3 results. Hold the trigger back and slide the bolt back and out of the receiver (if you haven't already). Unlike the 07, 38, 91/38 and 91/59 this carbine is fitted with a side folding bayonet. Mosin Nagant Band Spring, Rear Our Price: $12.50 . americanrifleman.org - Camouflaging Your Gun by Cameron Hopkins. Even though the technical conditions for production were the same for both factories, final products looked a little different, the finish on stocks from different factories can vary from shiny to matte. A new modern rifle? Courtesy of Peter Malik. Clean off the sanding dust (use a vacuum, compressed air, damp rag, tack cloth, or whatever works for you). If your Mosin has a decent finish on it, I'd recommend leaving it alone. $90.23 $ 90. Hi guys. Sold On: December 2nd, 2011. We are your source for aftermarket Mosin Nagant rifle accessories and parts, the original scope and mount combo, and stock kits on sale at low prices. Mosin Nagant 2-7x32 Long Eye Relief Scope + Scout Rail Mount for Mosin Nagant 91/30 M38 M44 1891 91/30 1891/30 Rifles +1 Inch Ring + 7.62 x 54R Caliber Cartridge Laser Bore Sighter Boresighter. I generally apply a very thin coat of wipe-on polyurethane on every surface, inside and out. In Stock Ammo SHOP NOW. The new color came out very close to the original color (before any work was started on the stock). Courtesy of Ryan Elliott, In 1940 Izhevsk replaced the shellac lacquer/varnish with nitrocellulose VK-1 lacquer/varnish. MOSIN NAGANT TRIGGER SEAR SPRING, PIN, SCREW, 3-PIECE COMBO. 1930's produced M91/30 stocks had screwed inserts into the sling slots (escutcheons). by srtjeeplover95 Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:13 pm, Post The Mosin Nagant is a very basic rifle, kind of what you'd expect from a rifle designed in the late 1800s and mass produced Read More Hunting with a Mosin Nagant Mosin Nagant, Guns / By Adam bolt. M44 Cleaning Rods 15.00. M91/30 drawings/instructions were updated with the possibility of toe splice production since 1938. wikipedia.org - The Mosin-Nagant encyclopedia page. Postwar stocks had full metal sling slot inserts (factory #536 NKV in Tula type), stamped barrel band slings and oval cutouts forthe barrel band release (sometimes similar shape cutouts were added to the stocks of other manufacturers during refurbishment). This is the time to repair any dents in the stock. If so, you'll have to remove it. are deep, then start with 400 to 800 grit sandpaper. Don't sand too much and only use 1000 grit sandpaper or higher on these areas. Don't sand the final layer of poly. Birch was used as the main wood forproduction, but sometimes depots produced beech stocks, beech wood was allowed to be used starting in1943. One is a 1924 Ishevsk hex and the other a 1942 round receiver which has the hammer and sickle and down below the date a small triangle with arrow. Since at least the mid 1920's stocks were soaked with hot BLO (the earlier period will requiredeeper research). In the end of 1943 triple lacquering returned. If you post a Mosin sniper rifle here, we may or may not move it to the sniper forum. Sand until the entire surface is clean and smooth. There are more expensive dyes made specifically for wood that can produce better results, but cloth dye is cheap and easily available. It's been 3 years and the polyurethane looks fine (no separation, peeling, cosmoline seeping or anything). Eventually, the receiver tang steps were dropped, the receiver's inner barrel collar was omitted, the rear bolt guides were left unmachined, the trigger became a raw forging, surface finishing of the receiver, barrel and magazine were dropped altogether and even sling slot escutcheons and stock finish sanding were eliminated to speed . So, let's take a look at some of the factors that . This seals the wood to protect from water, oil, etc. Overall length is 40.4 inches, barrel length is 20.47 inches, front sights are wire pin post, rear sights are graduated 100 to 1000 meters. SKU: KSA9130. . One is a 1924 Ishevsk hex and the other a 1942 round receiver which has the hammer and sickle and down below the date a small triangle with arrow. After stripping the shellac and de-greasing. A desirable Hex to me would be one that was married to a barrel manufactured during the war. SKU: MN-M91/21. It's probably not worth the hassle. Model 1944 Mosin Nagant - Manufactured by Russia during and after WWII, Hungary, Poland, and Romania after the war. In 1943 the factory switched to the stacked steel caps (similar to the Izhevsk pattern) and used them up to the end of the production in 1944. I made no effort to preserve the historic condition of my Mosin. The shellac finish can be restored. 226 Williams Ln. Rifle Stock & Forend Parts for Mosin Nagant Best Selling ProMag AA9130 Archangel OPHOR Precision Rifle Stock - Black (167) $180.77 New ATI Mosin Nagant 7.62X54R Monte Carlo Stock - Black (23) $82.47 New $75.00 Used ProMag AA9130-DT Archangel Opfor Precision Rifle Stock for Mosin-Nagant (94) $180.79 New Mosin-Nagant For Sale at GunAuction.com. So a "box with cross line" at the buttstock of the majority of the stocks indicates that the it was produced by Arsenal #1. According to the MSDS it contains acetone, methanol and toluene. Click on the Mosin Parts link for the parts page! Russian Mosin Nagant 91/30 Round Receiver Rifle, 7.62x54R, Tula 1939, C&R, VG, Used. More Details : MOSIN NAGANT M38 M44 REAR SIGHT ASSEMBLY. Send email to admins@russian-mosin-nagant-forum.com, New Mosin owner question on escutcheons sling slots, Re: New Mosin owner question on escutcheons sling slots. Arsenal #1. The most common chambering of the Mosin-Nagant is 7.62 Russian, which is a dandy hunting round. I'm gambling your '24 is built on and older receiver date on the tang. It's unclear when, but in the 1930's Soviets managed to replace the imported "Cologne earth" with a chemically synthesized equivalent, this significantly improved supply. The bolt disassembly process isn't very difficult, but there are several good video tutorials on the internet that can explain it better than the following directions You have two methods to complete the bolt disassembly: There are many things that can cause the bolt to be stiff, usually it's hardened cosmoline or a burr in the chamber. Price $3.95. You can use many other finishes, but keep in mind the stock will likely get wet from washing out the barrel or maybe rain, it'll be exposed to various cleaning solvents and it'll probably get a little beat up through normal use - so choose your finish appropriately. Use tape to mask anything you don't want to paint (like inside the chamber and barrel), and spray on a thin coat, let dry and repeat several times. total length 28 1/3", folded length 18 ". The bolt head and the guide rod/connector will come off. Manufactured in Poland from handpicked European Ash, CNC machined. Here's my general finishing process. Details about toe splices will be provided below. Mosin Nagant 91/30 Firing Pin *Good* $23.00. Shellac can be repaired fairly easily, but I wanted a tougher finish. Metal underfolding stock original from AK47, new old stock. First, inspect the chamber and make sure the rifle is not loaded. All sorts of odd combinations like screwed in early style on the rear, nothing on the front, and so on. Start with 800 - 1000 grit. All Rifles, Firearms, Mosin Nagant. The Tula factory #314 NKV stopped M91/30 production in 1940 and switched to SVT-40 production, Izhevsk factory #74 NKV had no major changes in the sling slot construction until the beginning of WWII.

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