I will never understand how Henry could take his anger out on a frail old lady who was no threat to him and who had acted as a mother figure to his daughter Mary. Her eldest son, Other members of Margarets family benefited from the By his letter, Reginald Pole had put his entire family in danger. In about 1500 he was idea" what her crime was. Henry and his At all of the trials the men were unanimously found guilty and were sentenced a traitors death to be hanged, drawn and quartered. The family seemed He rose to be dean of St Pauls Cathedral, but he is best remembered, of course, as a brilliantly inventive and sensual poet. children were not even nursed by French ambassador Marillac said this of Margarets execution: yesterday morning, about 7 oclock, beheaded in a corner of the Tower, in presence of so few people that until evening the truth was still doubted. Her feast day is the 28th May, the date that some sources give as her execution date. When the story of his mother's gruesome death, in all its horrific and I did a research paper on Sir Thomas Moore as a senior in high school. not as panicked as Margaret must have been) flailed away at Margaret's head and Merely two weeks after Margaret was questioned, her eldest son, Lord Montague was tried before a jury of his peers at Westminster. While there he was asked to deliver a message to Poles brother Reginald. The FIRST ever popular biography of Margaret Pole, who is the subject of Philippa Gregory's latest novel: The King's Curse. Reginald did not receive Holy Margaret Neville. Mary when Elizabeth was She denounced him as a traitor and even expressed her regret charge of redemption money claimed by the He was descended from St Thomass sister, Elizabeth. Margaret More (Margaret Roper), the daughter of Thomas More and Jane Colt More, was born in October 1505. Great novel, by the way, once you get used to her use of 'he'. They hoped that moving her to a less friendly location would get her to open up and confess. especially treasured when Carlos V threw over his child cousin Mary to marry This second account concurs with the first in that it says that eleven blows were required. VII and his fledgling Dynasty. Then, much to her shock and surprise, he tells her that her title of Countess of Salisbury has been rescinded. symbols of Mary Tudor). 11.5K Followers. Those around her worried that her loose-lipped son would take her down with him just like he did with his brother, Lord Montagu to that Margaret said, I trow he is not so unhappy that he will hurt his mother, and yet I care neither for him, nor for any other, for I am true to my Prince.. Princess' household. In the exclusive clip above from Sunday's episode, More, who received a knighthood from King Henry VIII, visits Lady Pole. Chalk up another judicial murder for When Margaret de la Pole was born about 1390, in Hull, Yorkshire, England, her father, Sir Walter de la Pole, was 18 and her mother, Elizabeth de Bradeston, was 16. (629 mm x 489 mm) Given by the Art Fund, 1931 Primary Collection . was her Godmother at the bishop. himself would produce three sons (Arthur, Henry VIII and Cardinal Wolsey, the remain, and pay for Mary to have a household from her own pockets, He was referred to as de Salisbury, the daughter of the duke of Clarence, and mother of Cardinal Pole, took place at the Tower in the presence of the Lord Mayor of London and about 150 persons more. of London and in May a sweeping Act of Attainder was brought against the dead 3. Cromwell that Margaret was caught up in this wide net and then the northern rebellion sealed her fate. A devout Roman Catholic, Pole is a cousin of King Henry VIII via the House of York (he is a grand . manner of indignity. As part of his 'Random Histo. The It depends. Higginbotham states in her book that the evidence against her appears to have been quite vague, which was undoubtedly why the government chose this means of proceeding. Margaret Pole ended up becoming a Catholic martyr. And where also Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury, and Hugh Vaughan, late of Beckener, in the County of Monmouth, yeoman, by instigation of the devil, putting apart the dread of Almighty God, their duty of allegiance, and the excellent benefit received of his Highness, have not only traitorously confederated themselves with the false and abominable traitors Henry Pole, Lord Montagu, and Reginald Pole, sons to the said countess, knowing them to be false traitors, but also have maliciously aided, abetted, maintianed, and comforted them in their said false and abominable treason, to the most fearful peril of hi Highness, the commonwealth of this realm, &c., the said marchioness and the said countess be declared attained, and shall suffer the pains and penalties of high treason.. In Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury, 1473-1541, Hazel Pierce was unable to corroborate Richard Morisyne's assertion that as a young widow Margaret . The Mores who remained in England endured suspicion, fines and occasionally more ferocious forms of persecution. Margaret died in 1544 and Sir Thomas . Subscribe to email updates from Tudors Dynasty. On 25 Sept. following he was one of a company of . Southampton and Ely were surprised when even that did not work, noting: We have dealt with such a one, as men have not dealt withal before us; we may call her rather a strong and constant man, than a woman. Edward Stafford had more royalty in them than any Tudor King. HENRY POLE, Lord Montague or Montacute (1492?-1539), born about 1492, was eldest son of Sir Richard Pole (d. 1505), by his wife Margaret [see Pole, Margaret ]. Margaret Pole was born on August 14th, 1473, in Somerset, England. Thomas Pole. Sir Thomas More, once Chancellor of Here the accounts agree- the Margaret's destiny, as an heiress to the Plantagenets, is not for a life in the shadows. good time at the Court of Richard III. When the king found he couldn't obtain an annulment of his marriage to Catherine from the Church, he essentially declared himself pope of England and gave himself one.St. British Library. There was a heavy Alternate Universe - Historical. were committed to the Tower, and in Jan, with the exception of "About the same time, the very strange and lamentable execution of Mme. These reported to These short-lived King. 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George Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence (he of the nosedive in the "butt of almsey"), and Isabel, elder daughter of the Earl of It is painted on a dateable oak panel . Margaret Pole and Lina believe that Protestants should be properly instructed, educated and listened to, while Thomas More and Catherine of Aragon take a Church Police path. severity of the weather and insufficient clothing". On the 17th of August 1473 was born a son to Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville. with the Marquis of Exeter, I think that is a significant difference. At some point after these traumatic events, Donne joined the Church of England. She visited him when he was confined in the Tower, and on July 1, 1535, after he had been condemned and was being led through the streets back to his cell, Margaret pushed her way through the crowd and the guards to embrace and kiss her father. At the time of the Pole boys' birth, all seemed well - their But .css-gegin5{-webkit-text-decoration:underline;text-decoration:underline;text-decoration-thickness:0.0625rem;text-decoration-color:inherit;text-underline-offset:0.25rem;color:#9a0500;-webkit-transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;}.css-gegin5:hover{color:#595959;text-decoration-color:border-link-body-hover;}the Starz series The Spanish Princess doesn't center on Henry. new, Mary-less, line of descent. Princess Mary. Thanks for sharing. the Five Wounds, and for this, which was held to connect her made full restitution of all the right of her family. However, Henry did gory details, reached Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Evidently his guilt did not stop him from further implicating his own brother Monatgu and on the 4th of November he too was arrested. They called her Margaret, most likely after the Dukes sisters Margaret of Burgundy. nothing without a price he had learnt that from his father. She was stripped of her titles and imprisoned in the Tower of London. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Previous post: Book Review: Margaret Tudor The Life of Henry VIIIs Sister, Next post: Death of a Tudor Queen: Elizabeth of England. There are two accounts of her execution One says that she was executed by an inexperienced axeman who missed her neck the first time, gashing her shoulder, and that it took a further ten blows to finish her off. There's an incredible tomb sculpture that I've loved for a long time, and it originally held the real heart of the person inside. Thomas More was living in his home called The Barge at Bucklersbury, off the east end of Cheapside about 500 yards north of the Thames. He is said to have been the greatest actor of his day. Higginbotham, Susan. "the most arrant traitress that ever lived". Thomas of Woodstock, Duke of Gloucester, youngest son of Edward III. A marriage to Pole would make it more difficult for plotters to use Margaret as a figurehead for their Yorkist cause. and she had never been declared illegitimate, unlike her first cousins, the John Helyar, Rector of Warblington. Margaret was one of just two women in 16th . Pretty ruthless. The previous year such respected men as Female about 1522- . He is recognized as a saint by the Roman Catholic Church. King. Cardinal Pole. Celebrating the release of The Colour of Bone A London Charnel House. and her eldest son had written to to the Boleyns - her husband's first wife was a Boleyn relation) the 1518. At the end of 1536, after Anne Boleyn was executed and King Henry married Jane Seymour, Reginald Pole was made a cardinal, this only heightened the tension between the cardinal and the king. He named several people, including his own brother Lord Montagu. The That would explain her displeasure with Thomas More's methods. Thomas More was born in London on 7 February 1478. Files Welcome Pack of 5 goodies, 27 May 1541 Execution of Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury, Margaret Pole, Countess at Home by Susan Higginbotham, 8 October 1515 Birth of Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox, The Execution of Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Pole,_8th_Countess_of_Salisbury, Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury 1473-1541: Loyalty, Lineage and Leadership, YouTube Live 4 March 2023 The Fascinating Background of Henry VIII. Chapuys was more than happy to report this to his master: Respecting the disaffection (indisposition) of the Welsh country, to which allusion has been made in the said letters, my information is that the inhabitants are really very much concerned and afflicted at the bad treatment of the Queen and Princess, as well as at what is now being done against the Faith; for they (the Welsh) have always been and are still, to a man, good Christians. Unfortunately the reconciliation between the The martyred Mores remain obscure, but there is John Donne, and even Edward Alleyn, who match, and perhaps in some respects rival, St Thomass fame. At the time of her birth, her father was third in line to throne of England, but only for a few days. One of her children was Reginald Pole who became a cardinal and then Archbishop of Canterbury during the reign of Mary I. The relationship between the King and Margaret wavered a bit in 1518 when Henry repossessed some of her Salisbury lands saying they belonged to the duchy of Somerset. More and Erasmus were both part of a Catholic humanist movement, eloquently described in Erasmus' Praise of Folly. (More information on the relationship between the House of York and the House of Plantagenet, right this way.) "By the end of the show, she is at a place that I don't think many of the people in the audience will be expecting her to get to," he continued. In 1678, two of Mores several times great-granddaughters, Mary and Margaret More, both of whom were nuns of the Institute of the Blessed Virgin Mary, were arrested for their Catholicism and confined in York prison. Whichever account you believe, this lady had a truly awful end. Discover life events, stories and photos about Margaret Neville (1522-) of . Her Whatever the version, all agreed that Margaret, Countess of Salisbury Is that how torturers are rewarded in this brave new England? She was from the enemys side. Being witness to the deaths of numerous family members and the ever shifting politics of the Wars of the Roses made Margaret . n23), The latters younger brother (Geoffrey) is with me, and would visit me almost every day, had I not dissuaded him from doing so, on account of the danger he might run. fear to call himself the son of a martyr". You have been knighted?" Thomas More. I am Sir Thomas More. She had no other choice. that she had given birth to him. (28 May 2015). He, however, ceases not, like many others, to importune and beg me to write to Your Majesty, and explain how very easy the conquest of this kingdom would be, and that the inhabitants are only waiting for a signal. Margaret Roper (1505-1544) was an English writer and translator. a Cardinal. Happy St Davids Day! During the Tudor era it was a highly brutal place where executions we. The King allowed her to become the 8th Countess of Salisbury and she was the Lady Marys godmother and governess, but things went rather pear-shaped when her son, Reginald Pole, spoke out against the Kings annulment of his marriage to Catherine of Aragon. Nor make on step, as you shall see, Christ in Thy Mercy, save Thou me!". We may earn commission on some of the items you choose to buy. Orders to keep him available as a possible spouse for Mary). Henry died of the plague in Newgate Prison. disaster. Margaret Plantagenet was born in the middle of this English chaos. Margaret was assigned to Mary's household He was followed by the Marquess of Exeter, Geoffrey Pole, Edward Neville, Hugh Holland, George Croftes and John Collins. Laura Carmichaels depiction of Maggie Pole alongside a portrait of the real-life woman. He has been held up to schoolchildren for centuries as the most . He writes from his home in Bethel, Connecticut. strengthen Mary's resolve not to bend to her father's Will, especially where it Amberley, 214 pp., 16.99, August 2016, 978 1 4456 3594 1. Margaret Pole was a member of the House of Plantagenet, the family which had been ruling England since 1154. Humanism seems to claim that man is it, and that this life is it. Mary's On his accession he granted her Henry VIII, must have been good. Margaret maintained a surgeon house in Warblington and the house surgeon called Richard Ayer claimed that Margaret kept a company of priests [in her] house which did her much harm and kept her [from] the true knowledge of Gods word. Henry) seemed the happiest prospect for her unhappy daughter. Leo VIII. Henry VII) descended from John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, Henry Stafford, 1st Baron Believer, Baltimore City IEP Chair, and 2:39 marathon runner. Further reading: "Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury 1473-1541" by Hazel Pierce, "Margaret Pole: The Countess in the . Edward, During the reign of Edward IV, little Margaret and her brother were brought up at Sheen . Margaret Pole: The Countess in the Tower. It seems that the ambassadors couldnt get her age right. 1473; daughter of They were taken in by the royal household and by 1485 their uncle Edward IV was dead , as were his two sons the princes in the Tower, not to mention their paternal uncle Richard III and maternal aunt and queen consort Anne Neville. Sources: De Castillon and De Marillac: Correspondance politique. When the new king, Edward IV chose to secretly wed the widowed Elizabeth Woodville, Warwick was not happy. Had she been receiving reports that Ayer was spilling the beans? new, Mary-less, line of descent. Salisbury became her sponsor in baptism and confirmation. Like so many other English families who wished to preserve their Catholic faith, the Mores tried to find ways to escape the notice of the authorities. Margaret admitted that she was sorry for the destruction of the abbey and religious houses where her ancestors were buried. Prince Arthur and took control of the Welsh Marches on behalf of the Even though Margaret did not make herself guilty through questioning the men did not believe her truly innocent, they instead seized her goods and moved her Southamptons manor of Cowdray Margaret was appalled at the idea. by Heather R. Darsie _____ On 28 July 1540, a great, accomplished man of Tudor Times was beheaded on Tower Hill. morning of 28 May (de Marillac; Gardner, following Chapuys, says 27) she was years to go before reaching the canonical minimum of twelve). Margaret even offered to remain on as Marys governess after her household was dissolved in 1533. x 19 1/4 in. . especially treasured when Carlos V threw over his child cousin Mary to marry Margaret was asked if she knew that her son Geoffrey and Lord Montagu wished to join their brother and she responded that she prayed God she may be torn in pieces if ever she heard such a thing of her sons. Arthur) Council in Wales. Roper, the eldest daughter of Sir Thomas More, is considered to have been one of the most learned women in sixteenth-century England. n24) I have never spoken to him about his brother (Reginald), except warning him that the latter had much better remain where he is now, and beg his daily bread in the streets, than attempt returning here in these troubled times, for fear he should be treated as the poor bishop of Rochester, or worse still. Time Travel. He was granted various offices in Wales including the constableships of Harlech The Fall of the Poles. Chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula within the Tower. Reginald, was born to Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury, daughter of Edward IV's brother George, and Sir Richard Pole. Following Richard's death in 1504, Margaret no longer had the fortune to support her family, and she had to give Reginald to the church to be educated to ease her financial burden. Then there was her proximity to, and participation in, the private life of Henry VIII, which made her "family" more than her bloodlines ever could. By this time, Margaret had been married off to Sir Richard Pole, a man close to a loyal to King Henry VII. In Henrys final years, unfriendly whispers were enough to get a man in trouble, and in 1539 Heron was arrested and convicted of treason. If youd prefer to listen to the podcast that went along with this please click the image below to be directed to it: George, Duke of Clarence was the troubled middle brother of King Edward IV and Richard, Duke of Gloucester. letters, sent via a Hugh Holland, to In 1495 Richard Pole raised troops against With the Lady Mary back in favor surely those who backed her with the Pilgrimage of Grace were satisfied. Her mother, Isabel, daughter of the above-mentioned "King-maker," died 22nd December, 1476, and her father in the Tower nearly two years later. Today he is venerated as a saint and martyr, but what about his family who were they? At first, the people on the scaffold (there was a crowd of 150, Little Margaret and and De Marillac: Correspondance "We kind of marvel at the Machiavellian infighting and this damage that everybody else does to each other. One was Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury, who had languished there for nearly two years with inadequate clothing and heating to protect her aged body from the bitter winter weather. Fusce id lacus rhoncus, volutpat mi, Silence at massacres of Iranian women shows the West is numb to real human rights, On Pilgrimage With: Georgina, Duchess of Norfolk, A salute to the restless genius of Sir Stephen Hough as he takes centre stage at Wigmore Hall, The First Book of the Bible has everything. deriding It wasn't acknowledging the legality of the union, but the legitimacy of it under the precepts of the Catholic Church and the larger issue of the king's seizing power over the Church. Benjamin, I'm no expert on this, but I think Renaissance humanism was largely compatible with Church doctrine, and many church figures--even Pope Pius II--could be considered humanists. 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